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Training and combat aircraft prototype unveiled -Serbia

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Training and combat aircraft prototype unveiled -Serbia

Post by el on Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:54 am

PANČEVO -- The Utva aircraft factory in Pančevo, north of Belgrade, on Monday presented the prototype of a new Serbian light training and combat airplane.
Defense Minister Dragan Šutanovac was present at the unveiling of the prototype, and stated that "this will be one of the most important products of our military industry, and its production is to start next year".

The airplane is a result of cooperation between the Military Technical Institute, the SDPR company and Utva, and is a completely domestic product, said the project's chief engineer Vojislav Dević, Beta news agency reported.

The aircarft has been named Kobac (Sparrow Hawk).

"The Kobac will be the most expensive product of Serbia's entire economy, and it is important that we are returning to the world market with such a sophisticated product. We expect buyers very soon," the defense minister said.

Last year, the military industry exported USD 250mn worth of weaponry and contracted deals worth another 600mn, he added.

Military analyst Aleksandar Radić told Beta that there were "many countries in the world which have problems with terrorists and guerrillas and, for this reason, there is demand on the market for a light combat turboprop airplane such as the Kobac".
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Post by Mix on Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:44 am

I know about this for few days now, but I decided not to put it on forum because this smells a lot.
Since we have elections on 6th of May this could be only a mockup and part of pre-election propaganda(newspapers have published that we will enter in helicopter development program with Ukraine, and some monhs ago there was a news that we are renting our wind tunels and equipment to one big country in return to cooperation in aeronautics industry development)

Anyway this project is some 20 years late because of market saturation and it could find buyers abroad only as significiantly cheaper aircraft

Good side is because finaly *Utva* aircraft factory standed up on its feet after beeing compleetly distroyed in bombing 13 years ago
And offcourse because there is even consideration to make turbo version of Lasta training plane
Who knows maybe there will be something out of this afterall

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Performance should be 500km/h in level flight
600 km/h max in dive
they say engine in 1000hp class
Ejection seats
and optoelectronics for targeting
G limit is +6G and -3G

What is intresting to me is that we can see several Lasta aircraft in various completion stages, parts of G4 Supergaleb(which should be modernised, to existing project) and two Alas and Lorana missiles which means that they are in final stages of development
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Post by Elfot on Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:20 am

So, in general it is a PC-9/Texan II "clone".

If it's priced reasonably, it should have good potential for sales even outside Serbia.

But then again, politics get in the way of sales... hmmm
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Re: Training and combat aircraft prototype unveiled -Serbia

Post by Mix on Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:04 am

Politics is maybe most important charachteristic of an aircraft

There are rumours that one more country is intrested in Lasta95 basic trainer, and that Iraq could buy 15 more(they already fly 20 of P1 version, so maybe they want slightly inprooved P2 which Serbian airforce has)
Anyway theese aircrafts are not ment to be the best, but to make as much parts as you can at home and to whole package be at reasonable price.
Maybe Lybia will decide to buy something, they was great buyer with about 100 G2 Galeb jets and some navy equipment, and offcourse infantry
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Post by Mix on Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:40 am

New info about this airplane:

Yesterday at celebration of Serbian army day along with other Yugoimport SDPR Frankensteins there was model of Kobac (Sparrow hawk), basicaly I was right about that mock-up in images posted above,it was rush made for pre election campain, but project realy exist and what is best is that it seems to be that it is ordered project with one country financing it
They also said that 3 countries expresed official interest in it.

It is based on Lasta 2 prototype and it will be redesigned(that shown on images above apparently is not final version), engines will be most probably Pratt & Whitney Canada PT-6A-25C (750shp) and ejection seats MartinBaker Mk15,with glass cockpit and HUD,and FLIR(made in Serbia)
After all it can be succesifull poorman`s COIN, which will not be the best but it will be good enough at reasonable price
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Post by el on Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:33 am

Thanks Mix!
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Post by Mix on Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:55 am

It now surfaced that UAE is financing the project(if info is true)
I only do not know why, they have most advanced airplane of that class already flying... hmmm
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Re: Training and combat aircraft prototype unveiled -Serbia

Post by el on Sat Oct 20, 2012 1:05 pm

They (UAE) have a lot of money and may be they considered this project a good perspective
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